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The MISSILE List Pt.1


Figured since we have a drift park, and in Japan, Drift Parks are synonymous with MISSILE cars and vice-versa . . . why not start this up?!

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Damn, Im looking at the last date of entry on this thing, and its been a WHILE! Perhaps I should do like other blogs and just post random goodness . . . I used to do that, but its difficult to keep up with, especially between work, motorsports, trying to vie for sponsorship and building my car, LOL! Not to mention the other things in life, HAHAHA! At any rate, heres another attempt. I wont give it a specific interval, but I will say that, every once in a while, what Ill attempt to do is compile a list of cars that would make good MISSILE drifters.


A MISSILE drift car (according to Nori Yaro) is described as follows:
A missile car has a couple of definitions in Japan, depending in which context youre talking. Usually it refers to a drift car that has been left close to standard externally, while still being heavily modified under the skin. Imagine the sort of thing a D1 driver would take up to the mountains for a bit of practice on weekends.
In the case of these cars however, it means that cost of tyres petrol, and entry fee for a track day combined should cost about as much as the car itself.
To get an idea of what Im talking about, Ive included these two nifty vids icon_smile.gif




And some cool pics, courtesy of Nori Yaro

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Okay, so now that the whole class is caught up, lets move on with the list. This list isnt going trying to be a be-all-end-all of cheap or missile drifters, its not supposed to be anything official, its just my opinion on what would make a good candidate for this particular facet of sliding cars. If you have any comments, questions or want to suggest a car for the list, let me know in the COMMENTS section below and Ill get your suggestion put up on the next list. Oh! And on a side note, if you see YOUR car on this list (not literally but a similar make/model, body style, etc) it doesnt mean that ALL cars like that are MISSILES just means that someone, who may be interested in building one, would be able to do so using that particular vehicle. Please dont leave comments complaining or send me hate mail because you feel that X-Car shouldnt be counted as a candidate for MISSILE. icon_smile.gif For the sake of comparison, I think what Ill do is set a price-cap of $1500 with a $200 price fluctuation. That should keep it pretty fair and help broaden the search some icon_smile.gif
Also keep in mind that these are in NO PARTICULAR ORDER! Its just how I think of em, LOL!
On With The List.


1. The 1979-1991 Mazda RX-7 N/A (FB and FC)


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This pair of drifters comes to mind first in the realm of possible missile projects. Rapidly decreasing prices (especially on NA FBs) and bountiful aftermarket make these two cars ideal for what you would plan on doing! You can find several examples of these cars on Craigslist for not a lot of money (usually between $400 and $1500) and if you can get them running, all you need to do from there is weld up the diff and these body-rolling stocker-rockers would be yours for glory. Dont forget that these motors, on the NA versions, are also pretty damn solid! So little-to-no work is required, in retrospect to their turbo counterparts, outside of normal maintenance and tune ups. These cars, as a whole, are also tough as nails and will take a pretty solid beating. So if youre looking to get sideways, for not a lot of money, and dont mind looking a little ratty (or want to go out of your way to do so), then these are definitely some really good options.


2. 1985-1987 BMW 3-Series and 1989-1995 BMW 525i


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This pair of minions is another dynamic duo of low resale value and diminishing worth. These are the cars that epitomize value-loss and often get the misnomer of being extremely difficult to maintain and own. Its because of this that I added them to this list. These cars are gems, nay, diamonds. They have a pretty huge cult following and are very fun to drive and tune. The E30s 325 (i and e) prices are kinda high, right now youd probably spend about $1000-$1700 to get one that can just drive itself home. The E30 318 isnt far behind, if not a little more expensive. The E34 525i has some pretty low resale and for the prices listed in this post, youre probably going to be towing home an automatic with a blown transmission. Thats FINE because 5-speed swaps on these are pretty straight forward and simple, granted you have all of the bits and pieces. The aftermarket for the 5-series is growing, while the aftermarket for the 3-series is in full effect! Its also been proven that there are plenty of parts for the E30s that are cheaper to buy than for the staple cars of drifting (read AE86 and S13). You can also rest assured that if you ding these cars up, there are plenty of junk yard shells and body panels lying around, LOL!


3. 1980-1988 Toyota Supra N/A*


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I was extremely hesitant about adding this to the list, this car is questionable for this list because, while you can find the Supra and its variants (The Celica-Supra and RWD Celica) for under 1700, youd be pretty hard pressed to modify these things for cheap. So I guess well add this with an asterisk for now. At least until the aftermarket increases. HOWEVER! The availability and affordability of these cars should put them at the top of ANYONES list who is looking to start a missile project. These cars can be found in hoards and if you smash one up, just go out and get another one and move whatever bits youve worked on over. These cars are a bit heavy, but their body panels can take some punishment. You put a roll cage in one of these bad boys, lock the diff up and you will feel just fine getting close to anyone who dares to tandem with you. Craigslist has a good-number of these cars floating around and while you may have to dig a bit (depending on the area) you are sure to find one that will suit your needs.


4. 1984-1988 Nissan 300ZX NA (and maybe turbo)


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This is another one that I kinda want to step back on and think about, but Ill include anyway. While the aftermarket is anything but sufficient for these vehicles, the price of the actual chassis itself is seeing some significant price drops. A quick romp through Craigslist reveals that I can get my hands on a 2+2 N/A from 1988 for $1300. Now, this is actually a pretty decent looking car and it runs and drives. So, yeah, there are going to be some things wrong with it, but thats not saying too much, because when youre going for the Missile, a headlight that doesnt work or the brake lights staying on really isnt too much of a problem at that point, LOL! I will say again, however, that the aftermarket isnt going to be as huge on these cars as it is on cars such as the S13 or AE86. Heck, it probably has a smaller aftermarket than a lot of the other cars on this and future lists. But this car does have one thing, its tough, will probably out-last you as far as reliability and can be replaced relatively cheaply if you manage to damage it beyond safe-running condition.


5. 1979-1993 Ford Mustang (Fox Body)


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Now I know what youre saying But Dave . . .Dave . . . . . .Dave! I cant find these for under $2500 and even then, its not going to be in the best condition Thats the point of this whole endeavor . . . Check this out http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/1493613346.html. Thats right here in Atlanta. Now, for this particular start-up, youre going to probably have to dig around a bit to find your runner-driver, but once you get it going, its just a matter of hitting up the track with your diff locked up and some balls of steel. The Fox Body is a handful to drift, but once you get it down, itll take you pretty far! Theyre great cars to work on and to drive. Also, if you choose this as your missile, you can focus pretty much on handling and drive train because your engine (if you can get your hands on a GT) will have more than enough power for a lot of levels of grassroots drifting.

-- Edited by TheFogMachine on Friday 4th of December 2009 07:30:10 PM

-- Edited by TheFogMachine on Friday 4th of December 2009 07:38:45 PM

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third gen gm f-body (turd gen)

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ford pinto

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I agree on the Camaro and will add that to the list . . . .the Pinto thing . . .I think you're not grasping exactly what a Missle is . . .while it's not the best car, it still should be a relatively good car for drifting. Check out the pics above from Nori Yaro and the vids. I can post more vids up . . .

Instead of thinking a clean Pinto for 1000 bucks, think of a beater S13 or busted AE86.

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Got to add the S chassis . . . and my personal favorite, (even though I'm biased bc I own one) the S14.

Even though it's my daily driver . . . I'm sure it will be looking like that before long.

Oh yeah Dave, the diff is now welded!  Time to rock out . . . so when you coming back?

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Maybe you guys aren't quite understanding the Missile concept, but an S14 can be one . . .although it usually isn't. Not because of looks, but because of price.

Good stuff! Get some practice out there, I'll be back once you're linking the course back-to-back.

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The price, and the fact that you just don't give a flying hell about the car and you just drive the holy piss out of it and if it breaks oh freaking well just kept driving it. You literally drive the doors off it and don't even look back if you smash it into a wall. As long as it will still drift you don't care. That's the essence of a missile :)

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S12 200sx  Cheap and RWD!



-- Edited by Minusdarkslide on Saturday 5th of December 2009 06:37:14 AM

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TheFogMachine wrote:

Maybe you guys aren't quite understanding the Missile concept, but an S14 can be one . . .although it usually isn't. Not because of looks, but because of price.

Good stuff! Get some practice out there, I'll be back once you're linking the course back-to-back.




Okay, so I'm use to the welded diff and linking the course fairly consistently . . . so bring yo *clears throat* dark behind back to Alabama.



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Once you catch up to my level, then you can *ahem* talk . . . .

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David you posted the definition of a missile car then go and make a list? huh?

1. ANY CAR THAT DRIFTS CAN BE A MISSLE CAR. Its a fully modified back up car to practice getting real F'ing close to stuff. It is not any crappy drift car.  There are R34 missile cars.
2. IF YOU DONT OWN A BALLER REGULAR DRIFT CAR YOUR BEAT UP RIDE IS NOT A MISSLE CAR.



-- Edited by down_shift on Sunday 6th of December 2009 06:19:30 AM

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I disagree. My only drift car is a missile car. I could scrap it at any moment. Anyways, all that baller craaaap is just masturbation (or a personal choice *whatever*).  If I'm correct in assuming that you mean: a missile car is a back-up or practice car; then I would consider my car practice...   for my next car (which will also be a missile).


-- Edited by Minusdarkslide on Sunday 6th of December 2009 07:42:51 AM

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Hey Jeff, hope you realize I was just kidding around, LOL! Also a bit of beer helped that situation, LOL! I reread my post and was like, wow, I sound like a jerk . . . .but then thought about how we joked around at Ruby Tuesday and was like . . .well never mind, he'll get the joke . . .LOL!



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down_shift wrote:

David you posted the definition of a missile car then go and make a list? huh?

1. ANY CAR THAT DRIFTS CAN BE A MISSLE CAR. Its a fully modified back up car to practice getting real F'ing close to stuff. It is not any crappy drift car.  There are R34 missile cars.
2. IF YOU DONT OWN A BALLER REGULAR DRIFT CAR YOUR BEAT UP RIDE IS NOT A MISSLE CAR.



-- Edited by down_shift on Sunday 6th of December 2009 06:19:30 AM





You're absolutely right, Byron, and with that, I wish to add that this is by no way anything official, or anything that I'm looking to make a definite, you know?

Check out the text from my original post, I try to sound as lease foregoing as possible:

This list isnt going to be a be-all-end-all of cheap or missile drifters, its not supposed to be anything official, its just my opinion on what would make a good candidate for this particular facet of sliding cars.



LOL! See? I get what you're saying 100 percent though. Any car that you can get your hands on that you don't care about (based on budget, time and availability of another car for drifting) can be a missile.  I was just taking a few things into consideration:

1. Most drifters here are broke. LOL! So if they DID want to start a missile project, an S14, Z32, Z33, etc, is a little out of the question, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! But yeah, although anything can be one, this is just mostly a "guide" of sorts, if you wanna do this and not spend a ton smile

2. The second definition mentions the whole gas, tires, event cost not costing more than the car, thing. I placed in, with that in mind, that these cars have a lot of potential to meet that "demand" for roughly the price (give or take) of what that definition outlines. aww

3. I uhhh, don't really HAVE a 3 . . . .but I said "few" so yeah . . . .Here it goes.

LOL!

Nah, in all seriousness Byron, you've got the experience on this one, and you know what you're talking about. So I'm not gonna try to start an e-battle. I just wanted to put out this guide, so-to-speak, for people who may want to do this in the near or distant future.  Personally, I'd LOVE to be able to do this. I have the know-how and time, it's just my money that doesn't agree.   We'll see what the future holds as far as going forward this time next year wink



 



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Of course I get the joke . . . I may be a honkie that lives in Alabama, but I'm no Forrest Gump.


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TheFogMachine wrote:

Nah, in all seriousness Byron, you've got the experience on this one, and you know what you're talking about. So I'm not gonna try to start an e-battle. I just wanted to put out this guide, so-to-speak, for people who may want to do this in the near or distant future. Personally, I'd LOVE to be able to do this. I have the know-how and time, it's just my money that doesn't agree.   We'll see what the future holds as far as going forward this time next year wink


Yea Im not trying to start something either.  I'm just nipping the subject in the bud.  I'm already seeing way too many people calling their beat up project cars "missile cars".  The term is being used incorrectly and is quickly becoming the new "borough".  

The idea is that you run a nearly identical car to that which you compete in.  So if you compete in a S14 you build a S14 missile.  One set up as close as possible to you competition car so that you can push the envelope in practice but not screw up your fancy paint, kit,  and wheels.

Bottom line if you are building a project drift car call it that.  My car is a project car.


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i just car my junk pos car....... a turd

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